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		<title>By: Carmen Brodeur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carmen Brodeur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be interesting to see how websites change for mobile users. The majority of real estate websites don&#039;t work well on mobile devices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see how websites change for mobile users. The majority of real estate websites don&#8217;t work well on mobile devices.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the MLS is that it doesn&#039;t know what it is. Is it realtor to realtor &quot;marketing&quot;...in which case its terrible, or do they think it&#039;s a marketing machine for consumers, in which case it really sucks at being. Either way it&#039;s a a terrible product and only has value to those who want to believe that. Having your listing floating around somewhere in cyberspace and hoping that someone finds it, and falls in love with it and calls the agent is nothing less than looking for a miracle. Time to start over. 

Its unbelievable that the MLS is the best the industry and all the major brokerages can come up with. The only ones impresses are realtors....not consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the MLS is that it doesn&#8217;t know what it is. Is it realtor to realtor &#8220;marketing&#8221;&#8230;in which case its terrible, or do they think it&#8217;s a marketing machine for consumers, in which case it really sucks at being. Either way it&#8217;s a a terrible product and only has value to those who want to believe that. Having your listing floating around somewhere in cyberspace and hoping that someone finds it, and falls in love with it and calls the agent is nothing less than looking for a miracle. Time to start over. </p>
<p>Its unbelievable that the MLS is the best the industry and all the major brokerages can come up with. The only ones impresses are realtors&#8230;.not consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie Manny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie Manny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the MLS is broken, it is only as good as the information that is put into it and how that information is presented and distributed.  Work on the presentation and the way the information is distributed and it will be healthier.  

What is broken is the commission model.  Buyer and Seller commissions should be split.  Agents across America should not be asked to represent buyers without compensation for their services.  Buyers should not be allowed to take advantage of free services that they perceive to be their right.  Make them pay for the services they receive (consultation/education, research, showings, etc...), we will have more serious buyers.  Reduce the selling price by the amount of the selling agents commission and roll the buyers commission expense into their loan.  End result, even Steven, and the agent is paid for consultative services whether there is a sale or not.  Nobody works for free, Realtor&#039;s should not be expected to either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the MLS is broken, it is only as good as the information that is put into it and how that information is presented and distributed.  Work on the presentation and the way the information is distributed and it will be healthier.  </p>
<p>What is broken is the commission model.  Buyer and Seller commissions should be split.  Agents across America should not be asked to represent buyers without compensation for their services.  Buyers should not be allowed to take advantage of free services that they perceive to be their right.  Make them pay for the services they receive (consultation/education, research, showings, etc&#8230;), we will have more serious buyers.  Reduce the selling price by the amount of the selling agents commission and roll the buyers commission expense into their loan.  End result, even Steven, and the agent is paid for consultative services whether there is a sale or not.  Nobody works for free, Realtor&#8217;s should not be expected to either.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Images refreshed; real estate search still seems stale &#124; 1000Watt Consulting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google Images refreshed; real estate search still seems stale &#124; 1000Watt Consulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Inman Connect SF 2010 Recap Part I &#124; Vendor Alley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inman Connect SF 2010 Recap Part I &#124; Vendor Alley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] busy.  Brian Boero from 1000Watt Consulting summed up things pretty well, you should go read his &#8220;fuzzy notions&#8221; recap.  I have to agree with Brian, it was truly one of the best Inman RE Connect conferences [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Barrett Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barrett Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MLS model is broken...sort of.  It really depends on the MLS.  Some get it, some don&#039;t.  I belong to an MLS that sort of gets it.  They all however forget who the MLS customer really is, the agent.  The agents customer is the buyer and seller.  We need to do a better job of connecting the dots.

Case in point.  A small MLS on the coast of NC is notorious for being very difficult to deal with.  Last year, in an effort to force agents to use the MLS&#039;s own solution, they made it economically very difficult for outside vendors to come in and make use of the data.  Competition was stymied.  This hurt the MLS&#039;s customer, the agent and in turn hurt the agent&#039;s customer, the buyer and seller.  It did this by limiting where and how the information got presented.

As far as mobile goes.  Yes we are seeing quite a bit of innovation.  I think this is because like social media, the technology has moved much faster than the gatekeepers (MLS) have been able to digest.  They were carried along by the wave instead of building dams to block the flow much like we have seen on the desktop.

The three big things I have seen that have happened in real-estate these last couple of years are; mobile, list aggregators like ListHub, and Google.  I think it will just get better as Google continues to mashup all the data they have into a cohesive platform where you can find anything and see everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MLS model is broken&#8230;sort of.  It really depends on the MLS.  Some get it, some don&#8217;t.  I belong to an MLS that sort of gets it.  They all however forget who the MLS customer really is, the agent.  The agents customer is the buyer and seller.  We need to do a better job of connecting the dots.</p>
<p>Case in point.  A small MLS on the coast of NC is notorious for being very difficult to deal with.  Last year, in an effort to force agents to use the MLS&#8217;s own solution, they made it economically very difficult for outside vendors to come in and make use of the data.  Competition was stymied.  This hurt the MLS&#8217;s customer, the agent and in turn hurt the agent&#8217;s customer, the buyer and seller.  It did this by limiting where and how the information got presented.</p>
<p>As far as mobile goes.  Yes we are seeing quite a bit of innovation.  I think this is because like social media, the technology has moved much faster than the gatekeepers (MLS) have been able to digest.  They were carried along by the wave instead of building dams to block the flow much like we have seen on the desktop.</p>
<p>The three big things I have seen that have happened in real-estate these last couple of years are; mobile, list aggregators like ListHub, and Google.  I think it will just get better as Google continues to mashup all the data they have into a cohesive platform where you can find anything and see everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Joel Singer...the system is broken.   I&#039;m my mind the only reason people disagree, I that realtors refuse ti see their business through the eyes of consumers. The MLS supplies nothing more than basic industry gobbledygook. Read a few listings and you&#039;ll be scratching your head wondering what the agent was talking about. Realtors want consumers to search for homes the way that they (realtors) want them to, but consumers constantly complain about it an reject that notion...ence the reason that consumers wait longer than ever to contact a realtor. Searching for and finding someones dream home doesn&#039;t have to be such a time consuming and frustrating experience...but realtors make it that way to preserver the usefulness. The MLS is void of valuable information and with anything that resonates with today&#039;s buyers...it&#039;s something only a realtors could love. 

As I&#039;ve been saying my while caree...realtors don&#039;t get it. Selling homes isn&#039;t about the realtor and what they think is good...it&#039;s all about what consumers think and ultimately think of us. Consumers are talking, but no one listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Joel Singer&#8230;the system is broken.   I&#8217;m my mind the only reason people disagree, I that realtors refuse ti see their business through the eyes of consumers. The MLS supplies nothing more than basic industry gobbledygook. Read a few listings and you&#8217;ll be scratching your head wondering what the agent was talking about. Realtors want consumers to search for homes the way that they (realtors) want them to, but consumers constantly complain about it an reject that notion&#8230;ence the reason that consumers wait longer than ever to contact a realtor. Searching for and finding someones dream home doesn&#8217;t have to be such a time consuming and frustrating experience&#8230;but realtors make it that way to preserver the usefulness. The MLS is void of valuable information and with anything that resonates with today&#8217;s buyers&#8230;it&#8217;s something only a realtors could love. </p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve been saying my while caree&#8230;realtors don&#8217;t get it. Selling homes isn&#8217;t about the realtor and what they think is good&#8230;it&#8217;s all about what consumers think and ultimately think of us. Consumers are talking, but no one listening.</p>
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		<title>By: C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As for standards, why, in your opinion, have we seen so little movement there? What&#039;s the argument against a true standard?&lt;/i&gt;

Any efficiency gained by standard data formats would be efficiency gained by making it easier to consolidate MLSs. If the systems can&#039;t talk to one another, agents who work near borders must belong to more than one. If they can they need only belong to one. What is the compensating factor, from the MLS point of view, of incurring the cost of transitioning their systems to a new standard? How does it gain them fees? It don&#039;t. It might happen if enough MLSs feel threatened by something like a RPR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As for standards, why, in your opinion, have we seen so little movement there? What&#8217;s the argument against a true standard?</i></p>
<p>Any efficiency gained by standard data formats would be efficiency gained by making it easier to consolidate MLSs. If the systems can&#8217;t talk to one another, agents who work near borders must belong to more than one. If they can they need only belong to one. What is the compensating factor, from the MLS point of view, of incurring the cost of transitioning their systems to a new standard? How does it gain them fees? It don&#8217;t. It might happen if enough MLSs feel threatened by something like a RPR.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wurzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Wurzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe anyone makes an argument against a true standard, the challenge is just moving from having a bunch of data (and people dependent on that data) that is not standardized towards systems that promote standards.  It&#039;s just a lot of work, and not very exciting work either.  This is a good example of why I argue that market forces do work in the MLS industry.  In many parts of the country, there is little near-term economic incentive to doing the work to implement more standards.  However, in places like southern California, where the overlap of markets is significant, the economic motive is present and that spurred on the creation of CARETS.  

During the data standards panel, we discussed how similar efforts are occurring right now in many other parts of the country as well, which begs the question as to how a national group like RESO could or should step to the plate with a national standard.  Either way, there are groups like COVE (about 20 of the largest MLSs in the country) that are working hard on standards and that will result in progress in the coming years.  

Which leads me to another point I made during the MLS Re-Boot panel: We&#039;re all often impatient with the rate of change because we lack a proper perspective on the total arc of change.  Because I just returned from the chiropractor, I&#039;ll use that as an example.  The pain in my lower back is from years of lack of care, and that&#039;s not going to be corrected overnight.  It takes time and patience, and, importantly, such patience is a lot better than the alternative of surgery.  

Lastly, another potentially useful analogy for the MLS is Facebook.  Slashdot just reported on how Facebook&#039;s customer satisfaction is &quot;abysmal&quot;, in part because Facebook changes their terms of use frequently.  Similarly, the cooperation in content creation by the MLS is due to a solid understanding of what can and will be done with the content, and so changing the rules needs to happen with care so as not to disrupt the cooperation that created the value in the first instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe anyone makes an argument against a true standard, the challenge is just moving from having a bunch of data (and people dependent on that data) that is not standardized towards systems that promote standards.  It&#8217;s just a lot of work, and not very exciting work either.  This is a good example of why I argue that market forces do work in the MLS industry.  In many parts of the country, there is little near-term economic incentive to doing the work to implement more standards.  However, in places like southern California, where the overlap of markets is significant, the economic motive is present and that spurred on the creation of CARETS.  </p>
<p>During the data standards panel, we discussed how similar efforts are occurring right now in many other parts of the country as well, which begs the question as to how a national group like RESO could or should step to the plate with a national standard.  Either way, there are groups like COVE (about 20 of the largest MLSs in the country) that are working hard on standards and that will result in progress in the coming years.  </p>
<p>Which leads me to another point I made during the MLS Re-Boot panel: We&#8217;re all often impatient with the rate of change because we lack a proper perspective on the total arc of change.  Because I just returned from the chiropractor, I&#8217;ll use that as an example.  The pain in my lower back is from years of lack of care, and that&#8217;s not going to be corrected overnight.  It takes time and patience, and, importantly, such patience is a lot better than the alternative of surgery.  </p>
<p>Lastly, another potentially useful analogy for the MLS is Facebook.  Slashdot just reported on how Facebook&#8217;s customer satisfaction is &#8220;abysmal&#8221;, in part because Facebook changes their terms of use frequently.  Similarly, the cooperation in content creation by the MLS is due to a solid understanding of what can and will be done with the content, and so changing the rules needs to happen with care so as not to disrupt the cooperation that created the value in the first instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Boero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Boero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael -

You raise a good question about whether or not offer of compensation is a prerequisite for continued cooperation. I am not sure what the answer is either, but my sense is most MLS execs view it as their &quot;secret sauce,&quot; which I think is risky.

As for standards, why, in your opinion, have we seen so little movement there? What&#039;s the argument against a true standard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael -</p>
<p>You raise a good question about whether or not offer of compensation is a prerequisite for continued cooperation. I am not sure what the answer is either, but my sense is most MLS execs view it as their &#8220;secret sauce,&#8221; which I think is risky.</p>
<p>As for standards, why, in your opinion, have we seen so little movement there? What&#8217;s the argument against a true standard?</p>
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